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Schorny · Oct 05, 2005, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by cunninghambone

I beat the game through twice, but was never much into PvP, so that cuts out like half of the experience. So what do they do to fix it???

They don't need to fix it.
You play only 30% of the game and complain it's too short.
If you don't like the other 70% it's your own fault, not anets.

Shinsei · Oct 05, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

If all you do is PvE, the game ends at some point, and in GW's case, rather early. In PvP however, your competition decides the game's replayability, and is the only reason why I still play this game. Until the competition leaves, there's still plenty of things to do *cough* Taipei.

cookiehoarder · Oct 05, 2005, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by Shinsei

If all you do is PvE, the game ends at some point, and in GW's case, rather early. In PvP however, your competition decides the game's replayability, and is the only reason why I still play this game. Until the competition leaves, there's still plenty of things to do *cough* Taipei.

Shinsei=right

If there was no PvP a good *guess* 60% of the gaming population would have left GW.

aron searle · Oct 05, 2005, 11:23 AM // 11:23

More sweeping generalisations, about pvp being the only long term game option.

Yes the pve in this game is sooooo short.

Ive only played it now for a total of 350 ish hours.

sigh.

Akimb0 · Oct 05, 2005, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by cunninghambone

Every fanboy that reads this is gonna flame the hell out of it as soon as I post, but don't bother I probably won't read this. Anyways, these are my complaints with Guild Wars as a whole, so if you're thinking about buying this game, please read...

The games good, the new music is good, the PvP is fun. But all this stuff gets old. It lacks immersion. I beat the game through twice, but was never much into PvP, so that cuts out like half of the experience. So what do they do to fix it??? Release some lame-ass update with two maps and a handful of quests that I beat in ONE NIGHT. whoo-hoo. I played Guild Wars regilously, but it just gets old. Someone will come up with a creative build, and the developers will NERF it. Which totally defeats the whole point of them giving all this customization to people if they're just gonna screw with it after someone does things differently than the way they planned. At this point in the game there's really no sense of accomplishment. I remember when I was 100 or so hours into the game, people used to advertise the fact that they were infused... everywhere you went. Now, no one even cares. 15k armor? I have 5 sets for the two classes I played. Along with 70% of the rest of the game population. Gold weapons were a status symbol for a while, until they made it to where they weren't rare at all, they just required buying a key for a certain chest. And as far as the community goes... get ready to talk about Politics and have a bunch of foreign countries hate on America! In my experience that's what most in-town discussions were about. That are people spamming to buy their ub3r godly blah blah blah. Guild Wars was my first online RPG (not MMO, because it's not a MMO), and it was a fun experience. I assumed however, that it was going to be a continual gameplay experience. Not a game that you finish, then cast aside. Hell, it takes longer to beat any Elder Scrolls game than this. And they're better. Granted you don't get that great the human interaction (although I played through most of the game with Henchman). I just left feeling unfulfilled, and wishing that I had spent my time playing WoW instead.

So feel free to call me a noob, say I'm gay, whatever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO else you can think of. I'm just stating my opinion. And if you're in love with this game and still play it, that's cool. This isn't intended for you though. The thing is people who still play Guildwars don't feel the same way I do, otherwise they wouldn't be playing. So go farm (until they nerf it) and enjoy that ub3r gold weapon you have (until everyone else gets one from a chest).

BTW, I gave my account away, so there's no reason hating in-game, you won't even be talking to me.

I agree 100%

aron searle · Oct 05, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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BTW, I gave my account away, so there's no reason hating in-game, you won't even be talking to me.

Sorry i just read this bit.

So if your in the habit of wasting money, would you like to send some my way.

I can send you my address and i shall expect a check in the post.

burai · Oct 05, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17

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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions

When i walk around on my adventures and see something that looks good, i take a moment to think about the effort that went into that individual animation/event/object.
The game is much more rewarding when you have APPRECIATION instead of constantly trying to undermine ArenaNet and Guild Wars - which in my honest opinion, is one of the best things my computer has ever had the honour of running.

I give that a complete ditto. I have had some great 'adventures', finding those bits of the map not covered by a quest/mission. I would imagine some of these out of the way places are rarely visited - such a shame given all the effort Anet put into them.

Although ... and you thought this going to be all positives - nah, not in the forums

I am now getting 'slightly' less excited by GW. After many many hours of playing any game, it's bound to lose a little shine. I don't want to get into a GW/WoW debate, but I have now reached a point where I would like a little more variety - such as the ability to craft items, become a trader, get married, have kids ... ok ... down boy. Basically forget the killing for a bit, and go do other 'stuff'.

It would also be nice to meet other people during my travels through the map (via shared instances maybe), though that's a topic for the Sanitarium.

I am in no way threatening to leave (who would care anyways) and I'll be there as tonight as usual, but I would like to feel a little more immersed in this beautiful world.

... buy a farm, grow some crops ...

LifeInfusion · Oct 05, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

...To original poster:

Sorry to skim but all I have to say is, you have overplayed probably.

NO GAME will leave you entertained for a continous amount of time, unless you take breaks (like I have).

The reason is it becomes a grind, a monotonous work.

You would rather be doing something more worthwhile than to farm for your perfect 15>50 sickle, right? Is the 15>50 sickle going to give you an edge over as PvP 15>50 short sword? no. Does it mean I wouldn't want the sickle? no.

Its' GUILD Wars, not PvE farming wars. You missed the whole point of the game. This is not the MMORPG type game where "OMG I PWN YOU WITH MY ULTIMATE WEAPONS AND ARMOR". Sorry.

Builds don't get , the skills the exploit do. They want to balance the game as much as possible so that it is not lame with everyone using the same builds and tactics.

Yeh, I am a fanboy... w/e I have been playing since 2003 when they had the first demonstrations for E3 2003 come out. They have been doing much for a game with no monthly fees.

terminalpariah · Oct 05, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

I just had a great idea!

Let's start an official "I hate this game, I'm leaving" thread. Players post why they're going to quit, followed by their username and password. The account is up for grabs to whoever sees the post first.

I'm semi-serious. All of my friends at college are really interested in getting Guild Wars, but not many of them can spare $50 in a given week. Why not benefit somebody?

KvanCetre · Oct 05, 2005, 02:05 PM // 14:05

I don't like PvP, thats why a I bought a COMPETITIVE ONLINE role playing game.

User Name · Oct 05, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40

this thread is like fanboyism at it's best. Apparently this guy doesn't have the right to post a review of the game because he didn't like it. Only positive things can be heard here.

This game is 100% absolutely the greatest game ever designed. It lacks nothing and comes complete with the worlds greatest story line, immersive PvE environments and the worlds greatest attempt at PvP.....

EAT U ALIVE · Oct 05, 2005, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Seriously, no one cares if u like the game or you hate it, It's no loss to us... quit complaining on how you hate it. quit posting these dumb posts about how bad guild wars is, if u dont like it leave..... dont post it here. Your also saying this because you probably sucked at guild wars and pvp... just my opinion

Hanuman li Tosh · Oct 05, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

amazing some one makes a post about the game lacks depth but admits only accessing 1/2 the game...

Lag Hell · Oct 05, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by User Name

This game is 100% absolutely the greatest game ever designed. It lacks nothing and comes complete with the worlds greatest story line, immersive PvE environments and the worlds greatest attempt at PvP.....

0_o o_0 0_o
X_X x_x X_x
*_* #_# &_&
xD XD DX

aron searle · Oct 05, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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this thread is like fanboyism at it's best. Apparently this guy doesn't have the right to post a review of the game because he didn't like it. Only positive things can be heard here.

Kinda, (well comon most of us are fanboys

). I just thought it was a load of rubbish as he says basicly.

Ive played it over 100 hours and played it religiosly. (so got more than your moneys worth)

Nerf nerf nerf crap.

dont buy it.

Dax · Oct 05, 2005, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Maika Boila Radovu

It's funny the things that you don't like I actually do like. Most RPG's have a problem for me in that I don't have unlimited time to play. Maybe 2-3 hours a week. Get's slightly worse in summer slightly better in winter.

Since there are no Uber items and No Uber lvl neccesary I can play a little bit and not feel left behind.

As a person running out of quality playtime myself I understand your dillemma. There are lots of MMO's that a person can feel satisfied they've made progress after maybe a hour or two. I think there's a difference between a casual game that you can enjoy for a long period of time, and one you can rush through several times over

I happen to agree with a bit of the OPs comments. There is not that much depth because they've tried to make everything simple. Seems to me there is a lack of immerision for your characters because the impression is given you need to rush through the game 3 or 4 times to have any sort of fun in PvP to make sure you unlock every skill. I guess there are people who enjoy this sort of gameplay but it quickly lost it's zest for me. The only thing entertaining is this forum.

Yes most MMO's have nerfing but it would be interesting to compare the number of nerfs GW has made in the brief time its been around and a MMO that has been out a few years.

But having said that, the game is very pretty and probably worth the price (on sale) for a short period of time....and that's all that matters I guess.

Loviatar · Oct 05, 2005, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by cunninghambone

Guild Wars was my first online RPG (not MMO, because it's not a MMO), and it was a fun experience. I assumed however, that it was going to be a continual gameplay experience. Not a game that you finish, then cast aside. Hell, it takes longer to beat any Elder Scrolls game than this. And they're better. .

i have a preorder for OBLIVION and had great fun with the first in the series ARENA.

since it is NOT an MMORPG it is a game you WILL FINISH with each chapter and put aside until the next chapter which will build on the previous chapters.

you assumed without checking which is your fault not Anet/NCSofts fault.

by your own statement you got your moneys worth of fun from it with a big margin to spare so i fail to see a valid complaint.

this game is like the local playground you visit for fun and then go someplace else coming back when you feel like it.

you seem to have expected it to be a second home/virtual perpetual life instead of a game (FF/WOW ) for free of monthly charges.

i will buy chapter 2 without hesitation

you state you knew it was not an MMORPG and then expect all the benefits/content of an MMORPG

CURIOUS

asdar · Oct 05, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27

He's got a right to review the game for sure but at the same time everyone's got a right to defend the game. He makes it really easy to defend the game.

400 hours of play for just the initial cost, like a nickel an hour entertainment
Complaints about nerfs - if they didn't nerf and he was losing he'd be complaining they didn't do anything.
2 characters through, so he poked himself in the eye with a sharp stick and didn't like the feel so he thought he'd try the other eye?

If you read the box it sounds like he got way more than his money's worth on this game. I know I've bought $50 games and finished them in 1 week and and they didn't have the PvP at the end.

Why does he feel the need to bash the game at all? He should come to the boards, say goodbye to his friends and say the game doesn't fit his gaming needs any longer and vanish. That's the mature thing to do.

What he did was come to the boards, whine and complain one last time, and basically try to say that anyone that plays this game is being fooled or something into thinking they're having fun.

"Oh I played 1000 hours and only thought it was fun, now I want my money back"

Boo freaking hoo.

User Name · Oct 05, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by asdar

What he did was come to the boards, whine and complain one last time, and basically try to say that anyone that plays this game is being fooled or something into thinking they're having fun.

that's not what he did at all....that's what it LOOKS like he did because you're a rampant fanboy. He merely stated that he no longer enjoys the game and doesn't feel as if it's the right choice for someone looking for a MMORPG...and seeing as though there are thousands upon thousands of people buying this game thinking it is, it's a valid review for anyone searching the boards for information about the game.

This game has the worst fanboy community of any game i've ever played. Guild Wars is a great game. But After 150-200 hours you're deathly tired of PvE. I got my money's worth....but the worth of one's money is subjective. Maybe he didn't feel as though he got his money's worth. He is certainly entitled to that opinion and the right to voice it. He was actually quite subjective. Pointed out where the game failed and why it failed(for him). Every time someone says something bad about this game you lemmings jump on them as if they've just insulted your first born child....it's actually quite pathetic.

Sagius Truthbarron · Oct 05, 2005, 04:41 PM // 16:41

There is quite a lot of negativity on this forum. The “fan boy” does not have much of a voice here. The thing is, however, you are simply stating the same point that many others have. You have nothing new or original to say, and yet you make a thread to fill it.

Actually, around here, the “Fan Boy” is considered mostly the people who don’t want “NERFS”; I don’t know why. You are just jabbering about how your playing the game too much results in your getting tired of it.

All you’re doing is making a long rant, virtually about nothing, things that are in all games, and then challenging people to attack you. What do you expect?